. As with winter in the U.S., global warming must be taking the season off. I think in GB they say, "...on holiday...". They just had record snow falls across the pond. Read on gentle shiverers. . . Warm and Cuddly Schteveo .
Not being a scientist, I have unsuccessfully attempted to understand the issue of global warming, or as those in the know say, climate change. Understanding the issue is difficult when it is fraught with such hysteria on both sides. Either the world is going to end tomorrow afternoon or anthropogenic activity has no effect at all on the climate.
When I was a high school, I read Rachel Carson's Silent Spring and became convinced that evil mankind was fast despoiling the environment. As a result, DDT was banned and diseases such as malaria came roaring back to kill thousands of people in the third world, or as those in the know say, the developing world. I revised my opinion on the evils of mankind when I learned that Carson falsified some of the data used in her book.
Later, I remember climate scientists warning of global cooling (caused by greenhouse gases) leading to another ice age. According to the proponents of global warming, the major contributers to climate change are carbon dioxide, methane, water vapor, nitrous oxide, ozone and CFCs. The major causes of methane are volcanic activity and the farting of herbivorous animals. I also remember the Alar scare which seemed to be the exclusive province of has-been or wanna be celebrities testifying breathlessly before a congressional committee. It seems to me that one's stance on the issue is dictated solely by one's political beliefs.
A look at the requirements of the Kyoto Protocols reveals that, in real scientific terms that not many people understand, "They'll cost the United States a shitload of money to implement." And, they'll leave much of the world free to do as they choose.
nerd, my problem with the climate change people is that regardless of the current weather, they have "proof" that it ties in with their theories. They never show you the proof, but they have it. How do I know, they said so.
And the fact that I doubt their "proof", is part of their "proof" that I'm selfish, and I hate anyone who's not rich, or white.
When I ask how does my doubting their "proof" show that I hate anyone who's not rich, or white, the say, because we say so.
It's basically the same reasoning my 4 y/o grandson tried to use when my GMRS radio with weather alert wound up in the toilet.
"...Turtle, did you drop my radio in the pottie?"
"...no Poppy, it wasn't me..."
"...but Turtle, it's just me and you here, right? Everybody else is at school or work."
"...yeah, but it wasn't me, 'cause it wasn't!!!"
I really think the radio COULD HAVE crawled out of my emergency gear jump box, and dove into the toilet, but it's highly unlikely, given his "proof".
When reading these so-called "scientific" reports (see: groundless hysteria) that come out of Britain, one must remember that, 1) the Brits rarely ever get anything right, 2) they are far more consumed by political correctness than even we are. If a nation could be compared to a magazine, they would be the National Enquirer.
Global warming has nothing to do with the weather, or the environment, and all to do with political power and control. The Left is always looking for new ways to control the masses and how we live. This is simply another way of doing that. And as is usually the case with the Left, don't bother trying to mount a logical, rational, fact-based argument about global warming, because they won't hear you.
Your experience with the ecologically superior is similar to mine, Schtevo. I drive a 4 cylinder, 2.5L Nissan Altima that gets about 30 mpg and that's as good as it's gonna get. I get about 10% fewer mpg with the 10% ethanol mixture that they sell here in the winter. I've put pencil to paper and the cost of an electric hybrid does not make sense for me, even with the federal tax credit. The question that no one has ever been able to answer for me is where the hell is the electricity to re-charge the batteries for electric cars going to come from. It has to be generated somewhere by either coal, gas, water or nuclear energy. Oh, yeah, electric cars have onboard chargers, but I'm betting that you're going to end up having to plug it into a 220v outlet every night. The other thing that concerns me is the weight, the life and how much it's going to cost to replace those lithium ion batteries once they are dead. Also, what are all these batteries lying around in landfills going to do to the environment?
I guess I really just don't understand the problem. Think I'll go oppress some poor people who aren't white.
"According to the proponents of global warming, the major contributers to climate change are carbon dioxide, methane, water vapor, nitrous oxide, ozone and CFCs." - nerd
nerd, you are obviously making the mistake of asking rational, logical questions, for which the left has no answers. You are supposed to simply believe what you're told and all will be well.
P.S. Is it just my computer, or does this site seem to be running really slow?
Stevie: Jorma is about to celebrate his 70th! Does a great guitarfest here in NYC and I had the opportunity to hang aftershow backstage with him twice in the recent past for Hot Tuna shows.
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Not being a scientist, I have unsuccessfully attempted to understand the issue of global warming, or as those in the know say, climate change. Understanding the issue is difficult when it is fraught with such hysteria on both sides. Either the world is going to end tomorrow afternoon or anthropogenic activity has no effect at all on the climate.
When I was a high school, I read Rachel Carson's Silent Spring and became convinced that evil mankind was fast despoiling the environment. As a result, DDT was banned and diseases such as malaria came roaring back to kill thousands of people in the third world, or as those in the know say, the developing world. I revised my opinion on the evils of mankind when I learned that Carson falsified some of the data used in her book.
Later, I remember climate scientists warning of global cooling (caused by greenhouse gases) leading to another ice age. According to the proponents of global warming, the major contributers to climate change are carbon dioxide, methane, water vapor, nitrous oxide, ozone and CFCs. The major causes of methane are volcanic activity and the farting of herbivorous animals. I also remember the Alar scare which seemed to be the exclusive province of has-been or wanna be celebrities testifying breathlessly before a congressional committee.
It seems to me that one's stance on the issue is dictated solely by one's political beliefs.
A look at the requirements of the Kyoto Protocols reveals that, in real scientific terms that not many people understand, "They'll cost the United States a shitload of money to implement." And, they'll leave much of the world free to do as they choose.
As a scientist, global warming, global cooling...who really gives a shit? whether by nature or man made...the implications?...so what?
Pollution sucks. Don't need toxins.
I am all about being a good custodian of mother earth, but I sure could use some global warming about now
nerd,
my problem with the climate change people is that regardless of the current weather, they have "proof" that it ties in with their theories. They never show you the proof, but they have it. How do I know, they said so.
And the fact that I doubt their "proof", is part of their "proof" that I'm selfish, and I hate anyone who's not rich, or white.
When I ask how does my doubting their "proof" show that I hate anyone who's not rich, or white, the say, because we say so.
It's basically the same reasoning my 4 y/o grandson tried to use when my GMRS radio with weather alert wound up in the toilet.
"...Turtle, did you drop my radio in the pottie?"
"...no Poppy, it wasn't me..."
"...but Turtle, it's just me and you here, right? Everybody else is at school or work."
"...yeah, but it wasn't me, 'cause it wasn't!!!"
I really think the radio COULD HAVE crawled out of my emergency gear jump box, and dove into the toilet, but it's highly unlikely, given his "proof".
When reading these so-called "scientific" reports (see: groundless hysteria) that come out of Britain, one must remember that, 1) the Brits rarely ever get anything right, 2) they are far more consumed by political correctness than even we are. If a nation could be compared to a magazine, they would be the National Enquirer.
Global warming has nothing to do with the weather, or the environment, and all to do with political power and control. The Left is always looking for new ways to control the masses and how we live. This is simply another way of doing that. And as is usually the case with the Left, don't bother trying to mount a logical, rational, fact-based argument about global warming, because they won't hear you.
The groundhog says we are going to have 6 more weeks of winter.
The groundhog has a better record of predicting weather than most meteorologists.
The groundhog is smarter than Agorian scientists.
That means liberals should worship the groundhog.
The average groundhog is, afterall, smarter than the joke they installed as their leader.
Your experience with the ecologically superior is similar to mine, Schtevo. I drive a 4 cylinder, 2.5L Nissan Altima that gets about 30 mpg and that's as good as it's gonna get. I get about 10% fewer mpg with the 10% ethanol mixture that they sell here in the winter. I've put pencil to paper and the cost of an electric hybrid does not make sense for me, even with the federal tax credit. The question that no one has ever been able to answer for me is where the hell is the electricity to re-charge the batteries for electric cars going to come from. It has to be generated somewhere by either coal, gas, water or nuclear energy. Oh, yeah, electric cars have onboard chargers, but I'm betting that you're going to end up having to plug it into a 220v outlet every night. The other thing that concerns me is the weight, the life and how much it's going to cost to replace those lithium ion batteries once they are dead. Also, what are all these batteries lying around in landfills going to do to the environment?
I guess I really just don't understand the problem. Think I'll go oppress some poor people who aren't white.
"According to the proponents of global warming, the major contributers to climate change are carbon dioxide, methane, water vapor, nitrous oxide, ozone and CFCs." - nerd
Why's everyone always pick'n on me?
Oh, sorry, CFC!
nerd, you are obviously making the mistake of asking rational, logical questions, for which the left has no answers. You are supposed to simply believe what you're told and all will be well.
P.S. Is it just my computer, or does this site seem to be running really slow?
quiz time boys & girls
who said "I don't care if my lettuce has DDT on it as long as it's crisp"
Gracie Slick.
not Grace Slick
me
Right band, wrong druggie. It was Jorma Kaukonen, the lead guitarist from Jefferson Airplane.
But, do any of you know where their name come from?
convoluted joke about Blind Lemon Jeffesron
Stevie: Jorma is about to celebrate his 70th! Does a great guitarfest here in NYC and I had the opportunity to hang aftershow backstage with him twice in the recent past for Hot Tuna shows.
A "jefferson airplane" was the original roach clip.
Take a paper match
Burn it, blow it out
Split it lengthwise
Place the roach in between the layers
Close it up, toke it up
Why is it a Jefferson Airplane? That would be a question for black jazz musicians from the 20's and 30's.
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