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A quick question, and a stupid tradition.
First the tradition. When I was a kid [11,341 years ago] my brother, who was 8 or 9, began to ask my mother questions about celebrating "Christmas Adam" or food for "Christmas Adam". For obvious reasons, she was baffled. She finally asked him what he meant. He said, "Sister Mary Elephant told us all about celebrating on Christmas and Christmas EVE, but she never talked about Christmas ADAM, and didn't ADAM come first?"
"Christmas Adam" is a day when my family annoys each other with prank phone calls and such general stupidity. Kind of an April Fools Day in the winter.
Pass on the love.
Now for the question.
I've got a couple of friends who are hoarding guns and ammo because Pres-elect BOHICA is going to sign a law into effect outlawing guns and the internet, seconds after he's sworn in next month. While I agree that he's no friend of gun owners, I doubt that he's bold enough to tr that grab.
Here's my question. Many of you, make that most, are more gun smart than I am. These guns are packing their guns and ammo in rice to keep it dry for long term storage. Meaning perhaps years. One gun said he learned it in Nam,
"...it's what the gooks did...".
I think the rice will pull moisture out of the gun powder and render it less than perfect. I think the "gooks" did it for short term storage or for easy hiding and transportation. Any ideas on this gun aficianados?
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Schteveo
19 comments:
as far as keeping things dry, it should work. it is used as a quick fix for drying out such things as cell phones that get dropped in water. The metal and plastic components should benefit by remaining moisture free. Any wood should br properly oiled since it's these parts which could be damaged by dessication. and I suppose the other components should be oiled as indicated as well.
if I owned any guns, I would still try to fire them from time to time, disassemble, clean, oil and place in such an environment as the rice.
But then again, I don't know know from squat about guns.
Christmas Adam I love it!
I've heard of storing firearms in rice, but have never done it because we have a small dehumidifier that we put in our gun safe. I seem to remember a long-ago article in the American Rifleman that warned against storing ammo in rice for the reason Stevie gave.
As far as whether Senator Obama is going to try for major anti-gun legislation immediately upon taking office, ain't gonna happen.
vacuum seal your ammo just like you do for meat going into the freezer. just don't put the ammo in the freezer
Remember to store your guns in rice and your heads in the sand. Don't come out from under the bed because the bogeyman will get you, Either that or the gooks.
Enjoy the fear. Embrace it.
het HLF - when the shooting starts (& you have alluded to democrat mobs hunting down republicans) remember that we will have the guns & you will have your idle banter...
I think we'll win
Dissecant would work better. Rice is sort of the "organic, all natural" dissecant option. It was used by the vietnamese, as were many other things. The longevity of such an arrangment will depend heavily on the gun and ammunition being stored.
An AK-47 is a very loose sloppy rig. Very little contact pieces, which means it can rust like crazy and still fire after a quick, summary cleaning.
An AR, though, would be a different story.
As far as the ammo, the storing of ammo is tricky. Some powders oxidize. Others fail with moisture. Some fail if they get too dry. That is why i don't store a lot of ammo, I typically make 1-2 years worth at a time when i reload.
Often, powder stored for too long will react witht eh copper and brass int he casing,a dn turn into green goo. Not real good for barrell pressures when a plug of green good blocks the gas escape fromt he casing during firing.
As far as hoarding/hiding guns is concerned, what a load of horse-hockey. There is no way that the president is going to somehow get a nation-wide search and seizure warrant for every household in America to look for guns. How the hell else is he going to know that you have them?
Fact is, all he can do is ask for a voluntary turn-in, like they did in Oz. If he does, all you have to do is not turn them in! How simple!
Yes, we found evidence that the gooks did use rice to keep their weapons dry in Nam, but only on a very short-term basis. The rice was needed far more for food as they ate most all the rats and snakes. Some of their units were also known to eat villagers when the rice and fish were gone.
Store away from moisture source, and keep well oiled. The piece, not you. Also, keep them near. Stay locked and loaded and be ready for the first sign of a liberal.
1 Go buy Storage Compound. It is what your new gun came gooed with and you had to clean off and oil with regular gun oil before you first shoot.
2 Store the ammo in a Dry Box. $14.95 from Cabelas (comes free if you buy enough ammo)! With soem desssicant like Silica Gel. (If there is any blue crystals, run it through a 350F oven for 3 hours. That recharges it. If its in a bag that won't take the oven remove it and later tie it up in a DRY washrag etc after the oven.
Ammo that is dry will last YEARS. I have various old (10+yrs) rounds that just sat on a shelf and work 100%, even shotshells.
3 go online and buy a 'FIREARM DRY STORAGE' bag. Put your guns in there with a bit of Silica Gel. Wrap it in towels and then plastic bags.
O, and the rice thing has been around in the US for a million years.
It works OK but there are so many better ways out there now.
sfp
By the numbers,
HLF,
I'm not hiding, nor are others here, the issue was storage, long term of ammo.
To the rest of you, you pretty much had all the same ideas I did. Maj. hit it on the head, short term, rice was too valuable as food stock.
And yes there are better storage methods. But I've been talking with knee jerks and red necks, certain that the "nigger" in the White House is the death knell for 'merica. They're not even going to the gun shops for ammo because the BATF is tracking ALL purchases so the "nigger" can know who to target starting 15 seconds after he says "...I duz...".
One of those 'seal-a-meal' units should work. The plastic material comes in a roll which is basically a very long tube. Should work for longer items like rifles and shotguns. Put in whatever item you want protected and it'll pull a vacuum and seal it off.
I'd suggest heavily oiling any metal and wood surfaces before sealing up.
See no reason why ammo and reloading components couldn't be protected the same way.
The main thing is to put up a barrier to moisture and oxygen...and some forms of fungi.
In lieu of the 'seal-a-meal' suggestion, I'm with Poots' with coating the weapon, inside and out, with the same type of liquid (maybe it's a gel) firearms manufacturers coat their weapons with before they package them. Seems to be a modern version of the old 'cosmoline'...which worked well but was very tedious to remove. Have no idea what this preservative is called...but an internet search should reveal it.
As far as a national gun-grab occurring, the logical place for 'them' to begin is the national firearm-purchase database, which lists every firearm purchase in the last few decades. The form you filled out when you bought that .22 rifle years ago is an entry in the database.
Hmmm, I wonder what distinguishes anyone here from the knee jerks and rednecks?
Just askin'.....
Or just the 'regular jerks' that vote their ow freedom away.
touche'
beat me to a similar comment
Yeah, the knee jerks and the rednecks vote other peoples' rights away as they seek to modify constitutions to that end.
See Prop 8.
Read the Constitution and Bill of Rights, Columns of Morgagni breath!
Read the Federist Papers. Read what the Founding Fathers wrote, SFB
Dear SFB (HLF),
"Hmmm, I wonder what distinguishes anyone here from the knee jerks and rednecks?
Just askin'....."
Knee jerks are usually liberals
Red Necks are working folk
You can call me a redneck all you want. It does nothing to diminish my character.
"Knee jerks are usually liberals"
Of course, a variation of that would be jerk-offs. Either way they are still liberals.
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